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Massive Snow Requires Even More Awareness - When Will Heather Open?

Hi Folks.

This snow fall has been incredible – not unprecedented by any means – but to have two straight weeks of continuous snow accumulating more than 11 feet is simply spectacular. And this is the good stuff – light, fluffy, POWDER, comparable to the champagne associated with Colorado and Utah. It is worth celebrating and enjoying, but we must offer this cautionary note as well.

There is a massive amount of new snow at Mt. Hood Meadows. Our base went from 38 inches on December 15 to 102 inches December 28. This unconsolidated snow pack is creating some hazards that you need to be aware of.

These hazards are most evident in ungroomed areas with trees and less skier compaction. Significant accumulation of unconsolidated snow aka POWDER increases the risk of deep snow immersion. The tree canopy diverts snow from around the tree trunk, creating a well. Tree wells are a common hidden danger on the slopes. When you're out enjoying the snowy wilderness, you may encounter trees that are partially buried. Equally important are trees that have been completely covered in snow. The boughs of the trees create air pockets which can pull you down into the snow if you step on them or fall on them. Tree well information is addressed on our web site at this page: http://www.skihood.com/Mountain/Safety/TreeWells/

Ways to prevent tree well and deep snow accidents:

  1. Avoid deep snow and treed areas
    Skiing or riding in treed areas and deep snow is a choice
  2. Ski or ride with a partner and keep them in sight
    Always stay in visual contact so that they can see you if you fall
    Stay close enough to either pull or dig you out
    Remember, if you lose visual contact with your partner you could lose your friend
  3. Ski and ride defensively
    Choose areas of widely spaced trees
    If you are a skier, remove your pole straps before heading down an ungroomed powder slope
    As you ski or ride avoid looking at the trees. Rather look at the areas in between them
    If you are sliding toward a tree well or a deep snow bank, do everything you can to avoid going inverted into the snow
    Carry a transceiver, shovel, probe and whistle
  4. Fight to survive
    Resist the urge to struggle violently
    Make a breathing space around your face
    Stay calm

There is an entire web site dedicated to tree well and deep snow safety: http://treewelldeepsnowsafety.com/

Now on to the unstable snow conditions in Heather Canyon, which is directly related to its opening.

With all this new snow it is only natural that our most avid skiers and snowboarders want to know when Heather Canyon is going to open. Heather offers some of the best advanced terrain in the northwest. It’s wide open expansiveness feels like a ski area all its own. The sustained steep pitch propels you from one turn through another, creating an exhilarating rhythmic dance with the mountain. Heather is especially appealing after a powdery snowfall, such as the ones we’ve been receiving.

But all these features that make Heather so attractive for skiing and snowboarding also make it prone to avalanches. The snowfall we have been receiving over the past two weeks has added a different twist to both the science and art of avalanche control work in Heather Canyon. We do not have our normal maritime snow pack and there are layers of deep instability with in the current snow pack. There has been significant natural slide activity recently through out  Heather Canyon, as well as in White River Canyon.

So thanks to the abundant snowfall we’ve been able to complete some of the groundwork for getting Heather Canyon open. Most importantly, however, is the remaining avalanche control that has been complicated by the snow pack received to date this season  The current storm cycle has prevented us from performing our normal systematic and methodical avalanche control routine. You can’t control what you can’t see, and this series of storms has been raging for two weeks, reducing our avalanche control work to basically “lobbing” explosives into the canyon from the ridge line. This tactic is used to trigger smaller avalanches to prevent the snow from building up to a major, uncontrolled release. Because of the size of the canyon, a variety of techniques are used including hand charges, ski cutting, and gas propelled avalauncher explosive devices.

Our patrollers and Snow Safety personnel go into the canyon during storm cycles on a limited basis and only when necessary due to visibility and safety concerns. Currently Heather Canyon is extremely dangerous, with limited or no visibility and highly unstable conditions. So we must wait until the end of the storm cycle to conduct the required and necessary control work before opening the canyon to the public.

There are other “control” issues - rope and bamboo closures down in the canyon have to be set (and reset as they get knocked down due to heavy snow or by avalanches). The lower terminal requires massive re-grading by cat. It’s a sequential process also. Certain things have to be completed before other tasks can start.

We fully understand how important Heather Canyon is to our guests.  We remain committed to providing the resources necessary and the encouragement to our staff to get the Canyon open as quickly as reasonably possible. Ultimately, our professional patrol department makes the decision when the canyon opens and when it closes – and I’ll always respect and support their decision. We must treat Heather Canyon, and all of the terrain at MHM with the respect that it commands – particularly under the current conditions.

NEVER, NEVER ski Heather Canyon, or any other terrain at MHM, when it is marked “CLOSED”. Our staff may be doing control work above when you’re thinking its time to duck a rope and get some freshies. The results could be deadly. The intent of avalanche control work is to increase slope stability by pre-releasing unstable conditions. Why would you want to jump into the Canyon when the very nature of the work above you is to cause an avalanche? When the canyon is closed, it’s closed for a good reason. Additionally, your thoughtless tracks into marked closed areas may inadvertently encourage others to follow you, putting them in harms way. Equally important, if you elect to exercise some very poor judgement and disobey closure signs and/or roped off areas you are potentially placing our dedicated and highly trained patrol personnel at considerable and completely unecessary risk as they attempt to either find or rescue you. Obviously, this behavior is unacceptable and will be dealt with swiftly and severly.  

So, when will Heather Canyon open? We anticipate near the end of this current snow cycle, when our Patrol professionals are presented with the conditions necessary to access, assess and accomplish the appropriate avalanche control work. Our commitment is that we will conduct this work as soon as possible and as professionally as possible, so that we can all enjoy Heather Canyon. Please have patience, exercise good judgement, and remember, this whole process repeats after every storm cycle.

As always, have fun, but Be Aware and Live the Code!

--Matt

Comments

Hunter said:

Matt,

I understand that the upper regions of Heather are dangerous right now and that you cannot open due to high avalanche risk.  I am wondering whether you can open lower Heather (mainly the "jack's woods" area).  I know it's below where you are blasting but it isn't in the path of any of the avalanches you are triggering manually and the woods are so dense that the avalanche danger would be low where we would ski.  You could station patrolers at the entrances to ask people whether they have skied there before, or you could even require avy gear (shovels, peeps, probes, and a buddy) to limit the amount of people allowed.  

Once you get Heather open, I think it would be good to have a gate lower on Jack's woods so that skiers can traverse from the top of the Heather lift, straight into Jacks without ducking ropes.  It is annoying to have to catch two lifts just to get back to the entrance and I don't like risking to loss of my pass.

Thanks for doing what you can,

Hunter

Matt's reply:

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Hunter: You do understand that the avalanche work is being performed above where you are planning on skiing, don't you? Avalanches tend to grow as they pick up debris along the way. Slides like the one above start up in A-Zone and run all the way by the lower terminal of Heather. The windows of the Heather lift shack have been blown out by the wind blast of an avalanche. Until we complete the AC work completely, we don't want anyone in the canyon, regardless of peeps, shovels or buddies.

--Matt

 

# December 29, 2007 3:43 PM

jimmmmi said:

the blog on heather canyon was the first one worth

reading....all the others,boring,boring,boring.

I miss dave's blogs.......

Matt's reply:

jimmmmi: Thanks, I think. Admittedly, parking and safety aren't the most interesting topics. And we do have more fun topics planned for future blogs. But the blog traffic and postings has been just as busy as it has been in the past and in my opinion those contributions and postings is what makes for an interesting blog.

--Matt

# December 29, 2007 6:59 PM

Springfish said:

Thanks for the update! The conditions have been unbelievable…I'm sure when Heather opens it will be worth the wait.

Matt's reply:

Springfish: Right on! Thanks for the post. See you in Heather soon (once the Patrol has cleared it for opening).

--Matt

# December 29, 2007 7:01 PM

Jonathan said:

Hey Matt,

thanks for the update.  Like most I'm also anxiosully awaiting for heather to open.  But I do fully understand why it has not opened yet, safety is the most importnat concern.  right now with all the powder, most anywhere is awesome right now.  I know when you guys can get it open you will.  I'll just keep anxiouslly awaiting.

Matt's reply:

Jonathan: Thanks for your continued support. I share your enthusiasm and anticipation about the opening of Heather Canyon. It's been a while since MHM has been pounded so relentlessly by low temperatures and abundant precipitation for such a long stretch!  It looks like there may be an opportunity for some clearing on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day, so we'll be able to see what the conditions are at the upper slopes of Heather, as well as the Wy'East face above.  Those conditions, along with the weather forecast (looks like more snow coming later in the week) will dictate the next steps and the time frames.

Thanks for your post.

 -- Matt.

 

# December 29, 2007 10:08 PM

cero said:

whenever ski patrol deems heathers open is fine. some of us have the patience, others not. your pow seeking guests don't have to deal with pulling bodies and explaining deaths due to avalanches.  id rather enjoy heathers and jacks than reading about a death(s) there and have it closed. if you know mountain and an early bird you can find plenty of pow until ski patrol opens heathers. until then ride safe and enjoy the fresh.

think 3 seasons ago, and just enjoy what we have at the moment.

Matt's reply:

cero:  Thanks for your post, continued support  -- and awesome attitude!

-- Matt

# December 30, 2007 12:18 AM

sds said:

Matt

This is the best write-up on why Heather isn't open during prolonged storm cycles that I've seen written(I hope Dave will forgive me).

One would hope the public might someday get a grip on how dangerous this part of Meadows Ski area is before avey work is completed.  It is a dicotomy that is hard for the untrained rec skier to grasp--such a fabulous spot to ski when open--soooo insidiously tempting and dangerous/deadly when closed. I hope it doesn't take death to convince them!!

Matt's reply:

sds: Thanks for your thoughts and support on this.  We are committed to opening Heather Canyon just as soon as possible -- regardless of what a few others may think!!

-- Matt

# December 30, 2007 5:31 AM

Steep and Deep said:

Thank you Matt for the update.  I know we all want Heather Canyon open a.s.a.p. and hopefully that will be this coming week!  I don't claim to be an avalanche expert but still find it amazing that at least JW can't be open by now.  I know that back in the 90's there was an avalanche that came all the way down to the HCC shack but come on?  Please do what is necessary to open up the JW's or the entire canyon soon.

Good Luck & Happy New Year to all...........PLEASE DRIVE SAFELY UP TO THE MOUNTAIN, ENOUGH WITH THE PASSING ON HWY 35 WITH A LONG LINE OF TRAFFIC!  NOTE WE'RE ALL GOING TO THE SAME PLACE LET'S GET THERE SAFELY TOGETHER.  I know I just wasted a lot of time talking to folks that do drive safely but if we could stop the FEW IDIOTS that insist on making into the ski area parking lot 1 minute earlier it would be a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Matt's reply:

Steep and Deep: Thank you for the reminder about safe mountain driving. Doesn't matter what's open if you get in a wreck on the way here.

Regarding a limited opening of the Canyon at Jack's Woods - we have no way of predicting the return rate of the large slides that can reach into the bottom of the canyon below Jack’s especially without being able to conduct thorough control work at this time. That issue aside if we let people into Jacks there is no way of keeping them from traversing up canyon. This has been proven when we open Jack’s only during storm cycles.  They don’t stay in just Jack’s.

It looks like we are going to get a break in the weather in the next couple of days and we will have a better idea of an opening scenario soon.

--Matt

 

# December 30, 2007 9:49 AM

Jeff said:

Thanks for the links to the tree well pages, I will pass it along to my team. Keep up the good work.

Matt's reply:

Jeff: Thanks for spreading the word. This Blog really has become a community that cares and while it may be centered around Mt. Hood Meadows it extends far beyond.

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 12:37 PM

Mike said:

The snow has been lighter than normal for Mt. Hood, but comparing...or trying to compare this powder to Colorado champange is just funny.  Nice try Matt but Mt. Hood will probably never get the 'white smoke' that falls in Utah and Colorado.  Im absolutly loving the snow!  And I will wait patiently for Heather to open, and enjoy every second skiing the GOODS!

Matt's reply:

Mike: I bumped into some Colorado powder freaks on the mountain today. They raved about the snow here. OK, so maybe Colorado and Utah is the champagne just as the cork is popped, and the stuff we have is champagne as it is being poured. But it still tastes really good - it tickles your insides, and makes you just a little light headed. That's pretty good powder in my book!

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 2:41 PM

Tim McMahon said:

[quote] Our base went from 38 inches on December 15 to 102 inches December 28 [/quote]

That is the best quote ever...

Matt's reply:

Tim: And it gets better - Make that "113 inches on December 31." It is going to be a great season!

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 4:41 PM

Springfish said:

Skied again today, woke up early and got first chair at the HRM. UNREAL conditions! PR is more than enough to keep me satisfied till Heather opens.

On an unrelated note I wanted to take this opportunity to personally THANK the ski patrol and ALL the Meadows people for putting in the long hours over these holidays. Getting an entire mountain ready for our safe enjoyment with these constant storms cannot be an easy or quick task. Please know that many of us realize what you've all sacrificed to make it happen.

With that said, let's get all the holiday tourists out of here so we can have our mountain back! ;)

Matt's reply:

Springfish: Thank you for keeping it real! Our patrol staff deserves the kudos and I will be sure to pass them along. Interesting - the alignment of powdery snow with the holiday has really distributed the skier visits well over the whole holiday time frame. Operations have been running smoothly the whole week. I'm really proud of the initiative our staff has taken to smile, make eye contact, chat a little and thank the guest. It is making a difference and it really has been a fun holiday at Meadows!

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 7:15 PM

Evan said:

Hi Matt,

It seems like there are times when conditions in the canyon would be OK'd but aren't because visibility is low. Is there any way to circumvent this problem? I don't mind it when heather isn't open due to avalanche risk but it's pretty frustrating when the risk is acceptable but this hasn't been assessed in time for an opening, especially the first day after a storm.

Also, it would be helpful to put actual lift status info. on the webpage and snowphone. The info on there now only indicates whether a lift might open....but doesn't indicate when the lift is actually open or closed, and what time it opened and what time it closed. This would be helpful in terms of figuring out if new snow has been skied out and how likely it is for the lift to open on subsequent days if conditions remain stable. I'm referring to both heather and cascade.

Thanks.

Matt's reply:

Evan: Good question and observations. We are investigating some AC control techniques which would improve our ability to perform work during storm cycles. And we can do a better job updating lift status, although the upper lifts will always carry the disclaimer "weather permitting." The weather can change fast, although when we get into a pattern of sunshine and high pressure it is a little more predictable.

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 8:53 PM

Tess said:

Alright, so this comment doesn't have anything to do with Heather Canyon.  But I would like to point out a concern in regards to the lines at the lifts - ANY LIFTS!  I think there's a problem with the way the employees operate the lines.  It is so unfair how the staff lets "ski school" in EVERY SINGLE TIME before others, who were actually in line first by the way. I mean, are they PRIORITY?  Do they come first before regular customers who have season passes or pay for their day passes?  That's how it is everytime we go to Meadows.  I'm not saying to let everyone else in who were in line first before a ski school arrives.  That's not what I mean.  We've waited in line for at least 16 minutes before we could actually get on the lift, letting JUST 3 ski schools coming in at different times.  What's up with that?  Don't you guys have some sort of system where when a ski school comes in out of no where, to alternate the front rows, let the ski school in, again alternate the front rows and let another ski school in?  If their priority, then you guys need to change that because it is UNFAIR!!!  

Matt's reply:

Tess: Our ski school lessons include lift priority, meaning we have a special maze line for classes. There are certain lifts, in particular Buttercup, where there is a lot of ski school classes on busy days. We normally alteranate between these classes and the public though, boarding guests between ski school classes.

There are other lifts on the mountain where this isn't an issue and I would be remiss if I didn't suggest taking a lesson, or perhaps trying our "Front Line Guide Service", which is a fast track tour of the mountain led by an instructor, with lift priority. The service is just $20 for two hours.

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 9:14 PM

Daniel said:

Bummer that opening Heather takes so much work, but the forecast looks like you'll have a few days to work on AC around New Years.

Is private reserve open? I thought I saw the gates with green signs on Thursday 27 but I want to know more about the area before I try it out.

Someone I asked said it takes a long time to get in and a long time to get back out. But don't Elk, Yoda, and God's Wall empty out onto the Heather Canyon run out trail over to the HRM lot? What obstacles might one encounter here?

How is this area compared to Heather Canyon? Please inform me because me and my buddies are interested in trying out these runs.

Matt's reply:

Daniel: The Private Reserve has been opened this season, but that can change on a daily basis. The access gate is located on the skier's left side of our Park Place terrain park under Hood River Express. Please obey the gates - if they're closed don't venture in. The run over to the bowls are gladed while Elk and Yoda themselves are steep bowl skiing. The egress from Elk and Yoda bowls is the Heather Canyon run out - so you can't access the Heathr lift after a run. You'll end up skating down to the bottom of the Heather run out, and then you'll need to skate or walk up along the HRM Parking lot from the Nordice center to the Hood River Express lift.

I'd suggest stopping by the patrol shack or speaking to a patroller about the nature of the terrain before heading into it. They'll have a lot of good information about the runs in there, as well as an update on conditions. As always ski with buddies and always keep each other in sight.

--Matt

# December 30, 2007 10:48 PM

regretful rider said:

As for the issue of staying in bounds, I just want to use this opportunity to warn everybody to PLEASE not cross any rope or into any closed areas.  I hope you all can learn from my mistake, and that no one else has to go through what I am:

A few days before Christmas after a nice dumping, I was enjoying my morning in the powder.  Of course the mountain was pretty packed during that time, so much of it got tracked out quickly.  Looking for fresh lines, I kept being tempted by areas just over the edge of the boundaries.  Half way down Columbia I got greedy and figured I would parallel the rope for 2 or 3 turns on the other side where there was still a fresh stash, and then turn back in to the run.  On my second turn I heard an avalanche charge go off in the adjacent bowl on the edge of lower Heather.  The patroller who had thrown the charge gave me a very informative lecture about how my being there caused a danger to both him and me.  It really opened my eyes to the fact that being even just 20 feet on the other side of the rope can create a dangerous situation.  From there, he took my pass, and escorted me back down to the lodge, where I met Matt who then told me my pass was revoked for the entire year.  The sherrif was called and I was given a Criminal Trespass II charge.  I am not allowed to return to the mountain this year at all.  Any future year I want to buy a pass I have to specially apply for the right to buy the pass.

Now sitting at home all winter hearing about all the great snow we're getting is hard enough.  But for me it gets even worse:  My wife and I are half way through a very long and arduous process to adopt a baby.  A criminal charge on my record would most likely affect our chances of adopting.  I can not tell you how devastated I will be if we can't adopt because of my poor choice.

So again, PLEASE let my experience be a warning to everyone.  The ropes are where they are for a reason.  I'm sure soon enough the ropes to Heather will be open, and it would have been worth the wait.  My wait certainly wasn't worth the 3 turns on the other side of the rope.

Matt's reply:

Regretful: I appreciate you sharing your story with others. Hopefully they can learn from your lesson. We do take crossing a closed boundary seriously. And while the penalty is severe, you are fortunate to be in a position to be writing this letter of regret, as opposed to being found at the bottom of an avalanche debris pile.

To all who read this - DO NOT CROSS A ROPE LINE. As rule #6 states: Observe all posted signs and warnings. Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas.

Live the Code.

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 11:21 AM

Debbie said:

We went up too MHM on Sunday & the snow was amazing, but the service in the lodge was even better. I just want to give a shout out of kudos too the food service dept, as well as all the ski instructors in the lodge who gave excellent guest service help & information. It made the MHM experience with our guests even better. WTG @}->-

Matt's reply:

Debbie: Thanks for the compliments. It means a lot to our staff, particularly during the busy times when the lodge can be pushed to the limits. Our ski school is doing an excellent job of extending their services to greet our guests upon arrival in the rental shop and to help get them to their designated classes on time. Thank you for noticing and sharing your comments.

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 12:12 PM

Brett said:

Any update since this blog was first posted?  We have two pretty clear days 12/31 and 1/1 any chance Heather is openign tomorrow (1/2)?

Matt's reply:

Brett: We were able to open Heather on Wednesday. Hopefully the weather will allow us to keep the Canyon open. Watch the web site and the make sure you obey the rope closures - Heather can be tricky during periods of snow such as the cycle we are in.

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 3:16 PM

Andrew said:

So I understand that the canyon is very hard to get open and is a very dangerous place.  I was up on the mtn on new year's eve and I heard the ski patrol blasting all day but the canyon never opened.  I'm wondering if the canyon opened today or is going to open tommrow?  Also If it did'nt open why? I understasnd that this is dangerous terrain but I think alot of people have the same questions as me. One more thing is  the Private Reserve a place where you need someone to show you around in or is it a place where you can go and kow what you are doing and where you are going?  Our family won a 50$ gift card on new years eve for being a 4 person carpool and parking in annex so thanks for that. Overall this is a great season and we all want it to continue smoothly.

Thanks.

Matt's reply:

Andrew: As the Blog addressed there is a lot of work involved with opening Heather Canyon. We were able to get the canyon open today (Wednesday) and hopefully the weather will allow us to keep it open.

Private Reserve is advanced skiing and it is very helpful to go into it with someone who has experienced it before. You could stop at the Patrol HQ at the top of Mt. Hood Express or talk to a patroller about the Reserve. Or you may be able to hook up with someone at the access gate.

Congratulations on winning the car pool certificate and thanks for car pooling to Mt. Hood Meadows!

--Matt

 

# January 1, 2008 5:18 PM

Katy said:

Thanks for the update...just a quick question...Why do experts recommend removing pole straps before skiing the ungroomed trails?

Matt's reply:

Katy: Good question. In the event that you were to become immersed in snow, or covered by snow, having your wrist looped in your pole strap would limit movement, possibly preventing you from being able to move your arms. You would want to be able to move your hands in front of your face to clear a space for breathing.

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 6:24 PM

Powder Hound said:

Could you please tell me why there was no one working on Heather the past two clear days? It seems to me that this was a great time to complete the work on Heather to get it open. The weather is going to be socked in when the next cycle starts on Wednesday.

I spoke with several patrollers who told me that they were not going to be working in heather since "Its a holiday and why bother" I was livid! How long does it take to blast and get that area ready? Do you really run such a skeleton crew that you can't open your best terrain? I drove from Bachelor to ski the steep and deep only to find it all closed! Seems not that long since I took avalanche training and that skiing on a surface was the best way to control future avalanches and that the sooner you get skiers on a slope the more stable it will be. I saw more patrollers free skiing and sitting around at the top of Cascade on Tuesday than I have ever seen all my years at Meadows, why weren't they all working to get Heather open? I have never seen it not be open with as much snow as we have this late in the season. If you were to tell me at the beginning of the season that on January first with over 100 inches of base that Heather would still be closed I would had said your crazy. I now say what is the deal?!!

Matt's reply:

Powder Hound: The general concensus I received from the patrollers I spoke to about your comments is that we could have saved on explosives by letting you into the canyon first. Your comments are so irresponsible and inaccurate that I question whether you were actually here this. Our patrollers conducted control missions into the canyon both Monday and Tuesday - here is the information sent to our head of patrol following Monday's (12/31) control work:

"In the past month / week we have done some control work in the Canyon and were not able to see the results. Today we had great visibility, and successful control missions, with some impresive results (6 to 10' crown in A-Zone).

Tommorrow (Tuesday) we will have two-three more control missions, and we will feel good about the stability. That said, with the warming happening tomorrow we will probablly wait till Wed when the freezing level goes back down to set up the rope lines and marking. Making me feel better about exposing our folks and the public in the gut. Long story short, Wed afternoon is our new goal for some form of Heather opening.'

Couple more tid bits of info.....  We still have a Colorado Type snowpack near the ground with over 167.5 inches of new in the last 14 days. Two days ago I saw a few acres of trees in the Gut get destroyed by an avalanche that with the size of the trees that are no longer standing had a 20 to 50 year return rate.   

Thats the best update I have for now, let it snow!"

Powder Hound - did you catch the part about the sizeable avalanche down the gut of the canyon? By the way - Heather opened Wednesday,

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 7:56 PM

Jamin said:

Anybody skiing/riding private reserve needs to be confident in ungroomed, unmaintained natural conditions with trees, cliffs, obstacles, deep snow, creeks, gullies etc.  There are sections in PR where you don't want to fall and missing a turn could be dangerous.  You may lose a ski, you may find yourself buried.  I would say never, ever ski it alone.  The other day as I was about to take my first turns into PR, I watched a boarder drop in and almost immediately hit a tree.  He was shaken but not stirred, fortunately. If you don't feel confident with your turns per above then please practice elsewhere first. Also please do not try PR if your technique involves side slipping/scraping down the steeper sections.  Please!

Good sources claim HC will be open tomorrow (1/2/08). Could be wrong, but I would be there if I could.

Matt's reply:

Jamin: Thank you for the post. And your sources were pretty well informed as Heather did open Wednesday!

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 10:17 PM

J Shank said:

Matt,

Good Topic. What's been reported to the public regarding the circumstances surrounding Eric McConeghy's tragic passing has been vague, any additional details you could offer through this blog would certainly be appropriate for the topic and ultimate goal of preventing such a saddening event from occuring to any other lively, young or old, energetic snowriding spirit.

The little bit of info made available has seemed to hint that the situation wasn't a tree well or lift pole well. If it was something other than these dangers that many experienced riders are aware of, please share what you can in an effort to educate about a rare but real danger on our beloved mountains.

Matt's reply:

J Shank: As is the case with most accidents the circumstances leading to this tragic ending were incredibly circumstantial. Eric was jumping and landed head first into unconsolidated snow - basically a huge snow drift. It wasn't a tree well, although who knows what could be under a seemingly untouched stash of powder. Indications are that he snagged his snowboard on the jump, throwing him into a head first dive. His friends were unable to free him immediatly and eventually dug him out, but by that time he had suffocated.

It is possible to get wedged into powder snow, if the intitial force and velocity is great enough. But in this case everything had to go just exactly the wrong way to lead to this fatality.

--Matt

# January 1, 2008 11:00 PM

Matty Jeronimo said:

Thanks to the patrollers who make it possible to open up some of the PR terrain even if Heather isn't quite open, I had possibly the best powder day I've ever had at Meadows last week.

P.S. I really don't like the idea of paying more for a "fast track" on the lifts. I guess it makes sense for ski school, but any guest being able to purchase a "guide" merely to circumvent the lift lines smacks of the kind of elitism that is rampant at some ski resorts, and whose absence from Meadows I have always valued.

Matt's reply:

Matty: Thanks for the comments - we were able to get Heather open Wednesday. I appreciate your comment regarding lift privileges, but we will continue to offer those privileges to ski school guests so they can maximize their time with our instuctors. See you in Yoda Bowl!

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 12:26 AM

Matt said:

Alright, I understand if AC is hard to manage with all this snow, but there is nooo excuse as to why you do not have an amazing park or pipe this time of year. If we don't have something steep and deep to blast out on, we're gonna need something else. pretty fricken please.

Matt's reply:

Matt: Thanks for your patience. With 165 inches of snow in two weeks it has been impossible to build the features that you so deeply desire. Our crew is working hard just to keep the features we have above the snow. But they are committed to getting the parks built as soon as possible. This will be the topic of our next blog, coming soon.

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 4:21 AM

Steep and Deep said:

Matt I'm living the code but you have to figure out a way to OPEN Heather Canyon!  Your ski area is just an intermediate ski area w/o Heather Canyon open; sorry but that is true.  I know we are now heading into a warm cycle for today and then a cold cycle with more snow which will be causing new issues with HC but that is why you should place gates that have to be opened by the skier/boarder at the entrances to HC stating "HIGH AVALANCHE DANGER, EXPERT SKIERS ONLY - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK".  This seems to work at other ski areas w/o any avalanche fatalities; note 99.9% of avalanche fatalities happen in the back country!  Please let us live the dream while living the code; open up.

Matt's reply:

Steep and Deep: I appreciate your passion. I don't know if your figure of 99.9% is correct, but I do know that most of those fatalities occur in uncontrolled areas. We can't open Heather until we have performed the AC work that needs to be done. We were able to open Heather Wednesday. Hopefully the weather will allow us to keep the canyon open, but if conditions dictate we will close it until the AC work can be performed. Our commitment is to get it completed as quickly as possible.

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 6:47 AM

Massive Amounts of OB Snowboarders said:

So Matt how many skiers/snowboarders tickets have been taken away this year?  Every time I ski by the JW trail off Columbia it seems to be well packed down for a CLOSED AREA???  Please let us code obeyers enjoy the HC/JW area soon.

Matt's reply:

The answer is we have pulled dozens of passes of those who have crossed into closed areas, and we have also conducted several search and rescues into those areas. You can read about one of those we had to rescue above. And of course the good news is that we were able to open Heather on Wednesday!

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 9:39 AM

Non believer said:

I call BS On that last post! Seems like a plant to scare us! I don't believe they would pull a pass and ban someone for being 20 feet inside a boundry!! Tell us your name and verify if we are going to believe that pile of garbage!

Matt's reply:

Non believer: There is no margin on the other side of a rope line. We expect 100% compliance - the infraction occurs at the time the rope line is crossed and it doesn't matter how far on the other side you venture. Call BS all you want, but cross a rope line and you will see how serious we are about this matter.

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 12:22 PM

Steep and Deep said:

Fantastic News that Heather Canyon is finally open!  Thank you ski patrol for getting this done and now hopefully we can get her open early in the mornings for some fresh powder.

Happy New Year!

Matt's reply:

Steep: We will do our best to open the canyon as soon as we can. It's going to be great in 2008!

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 3:29 PM

Matt said:

I find it rather disingenuous to recycle a picture of avalanche debris from a spring wet slide that's sitting on top of a season's worth of avalanche debris in order to frighten readers of this blog.

Posting that picture with no context other than the tacit assumption that it's what current avalanche slides will do to the bottom of Heather Canyon is absurd.  Even the 10' slide in A-zone back on Dec 2nd didn't produce a debris pile resembling that one.

Matt's reply:

Matt: The picture was posted to show the potential that the canyon has to produce avalanches. The conditions prior to opening had the potential to create an even more devasting avalanche. Just a few days ago our patrol witnessed a stand of trees in the gut of the canyon wiped out by an avalanche. The point of the picture is that the canyon can be deadly when uncontrolled - don't go into the canyon when it's closed.

If you'd like more informaton please contact the head of our patrol. She'd like to know how you know what the debris pile from the December 2nd slide looked like. Perhaps it was your tracks crossing the boundary that led our patrollers into a needless search, regardless of the results.

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 3:49 PM

Candi Murray said:

Whoo Hoo! Heather opened today and it was great!

Matt's reply:

Candi: Whoo Hoo back atcha.

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 5:05 PM

JP said:

HEATHER OPENED!!!

MATT! Heather Canyon was a dream today. I was teaching a buddy on Shooting star, I see the patrol lady head to the gate. I tell my freidn I'll meet him.

I cannot express how amazing it felt to be one of the first dozen people down Heather this season. It was amazing. I boarded HC from the time it opened until the time it closed.

It was so nice. It kind of stunk once it had been all skied up! Oh well! Thanks so very much.

Your Ski Patrol staff made my day as well as that of many others. I appreciate the effort put forth by everyone. I am glad I waited to go down. It was well worth it.

Matt's reply:

JP: Thanks for the update - I'm sure you are making a lot of people envious! Also thanks for waiting until we could perform the necessary AC work to open the canyon. Hopefully we'll have a long season with many primo HC days!

--Matt

# January 2, 2008 7:13 PM

adam said:

When in the world are you going to open or get people working on park place?  There was two awesome days in a row I was up there and nobody was working on park place.  Last year it was allready up and going.  This is seriously frusterating for those of us who buy our season passes for the park!  

Matt's reply:

adam: I understand and appreciate your frustration. I don't think our guests fully appreciate how much snow we have received here in the past two weeks. Building jumps when you are averaging a foot / day just doesn't work. It's fruitless. However, we are making progress and that will be the topic of the new blog coming soon.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 8:15 AM

Meadows Lark said:

Cool, it's good to know what's goin' on with Heather.  Now tell me what's up with the parks.  It was good to have a couple nice jumps in the City, but when is the Place and the Pipe gonna be built.  I think you may have enough snow now, and I am ready for Paradise.

Build them jumps, dig that pipe, pretty pretty please!

Peace.

Matt's reply:

Meadows Lark: We're about to release a blog about our parks. This substantial snow has kept our crew pretty much in dig out mode, just trying to keep up with the rails and Rose City. We are making progress on some of our other parks and pipes and we'll be giving an update on that shortly.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 8:33 AM

popcorn said:

Hey matt, thanks for finally opening HC. I have some friends from Park City that are coming up here in a few weeks for some ski time. They had an idea to ski from cloud cap up to the cooper spur and then over and down HC. If at this time HC is not open, is it still within MHM and county regulations to do this?

Thank you again for opening HC.

Matt's reply:

popcorn: Conditions can change, but right now the back country is about as dangerous as it gets and I wouldn't even consider that trek with the way things are now. The current weather system also makes the status of Heather Canyon change frequently, so knowing whether the canyon was open or closed would be problematic. 

--Matt 

# January 3, 2008 8:59 AM

nick said:

Hey Matt great job on heather! I'd like to see more stuff in the park dreams spot on the conditions page instead of just a blank line.

Thanks,

Nick

Matt's reply:

Nick: That was a remnant from our page before we started updating features within each park. We'll include the "planned" information either in the general section of the conditions page or within the specific park we are making plans for.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 9:46 AM

Dan said:

Steep and Deep:

I don't understand your point. You state that most fatalities happen in uncontrolled areas, if Heather was controlled by means of rider operated gates and signs as you suggest, it would no longer get control work by ski patrol. They aren't going to throw explosives if people might be in there, and if they have to close it to do control then your suggestion doesn't work. Most fatalities happen out of bounds because that's where conditions aren't mitigated and people make unwise decisions.

If you're so intent on living the dream, try buying a pair of skins. No sarcasm intended, just a genuine suggestion.

Matt's reply:

Steep: Thanks for the post. My point was that during heavy snow periods the canyon is not receiving the normal and routine AC control because visibility and conditions just don't allow it. Yet we have guests who want to go into the canyon during those time frames. Even though it would be in our permit area, they would be entering an uncontrolled area since the AC work had not been completed, and putting themselves at extreme risk, which would be an unwise decision.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 12:22 PM

joe public said:

The open-HC benefits not just experts but everyone who visits Meadows as it relieves the other lift system when HC is open.  I understand the HC is unique and one of the most difficult terrains to open after a major storm.  When you have a terrain such as HC, you need to hire the best person to do the job and have the best equipment the money can buy.  While the industry standard wages may work for most other positions, you need to pay top wages for AC experts working on one of the most difficult terrains in the country.  Is Meadows truly committed to offering the best experience it can provide to its visitors - Matt?  Let me ask you, who is the head of AC control experts now and how long has he been working at his current position?  Why did the previous person left?  Until Meadows hire the right people with right attitude and invest in the right tools to do the job, HC will continue to be closed lot longer than it should.  –ps- I have tried to post here before but it never became public and I really don’t expect this one to get posted.

joe public

Matt's reply:

Joe: MHM personel policies prevent us from commenting on these issues. But let me tell you that MHM is firmly committed to our AC program. Ask any seasoned MHM Patroller, Mountain Ops, Ski School, Accounting., Marketing or other about that fact. MHM has the right folks in the right positions to take us to the next AC level, but it will take additional resources, training and committment -- all of which are well underway.

The questions that you ask are the same we ask internally as we proactively address the control issue and what needs to be done to provide more resources and training for our crew, and attract new talent with expertise to our team.  By the way, what are your skills and background?  Interested in joining the skilled and the proud?  We intend to continually improve all aspects Mt. Hood Meadows including our abilities to perform AC control.  Our ability to add more AC resources is now somewhat in the hands of our landlord, and I believe they stand firmly with us on this issue.  Look for a future blog just on this topic. 

Thanks for the post.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 2:03 PM

Thomas said:

Quick question.  If lower heather canyon is open and/or upper heather canyon, are we allowed to hike up to Superbowl or the bowls up there, even if the cat isn't running.  Also, I think it would be a good idea if you had a better way to communicate issues between the bottom of the Heather lift and say a patroller at the top of Shooting Star.  I heard there was somebody stuck (not fatal or injured I'm pretty sure) yesterday and the guy on the lift with me was gonna tell a patrol member but the liftie just said just tell somebody at the top, and he still had to wait in line to get on the lift and get to the top.  I thought it might be easier by having radios or something.

Matt's reply:

Thomas: Thanks for the question. In general we do not allow hiking above the highest open gate because there is a reason the upper gates aren't open. Anyone caught hiking above the highest open gate will lose their pass.  Sometimes the highest open gate is the Superbowl cat road and there are times when we allow folks to hike even if the cat can’t run.  If people have questions ask patrol at the top of Cascade.

The tops and bottoms of each lift have phones where they call directly to Patrol dispatch who in turn radios out for the closest responding patroller. This particular incident was reported by one of our Doctors, via radio, who was out skiing as well as from the bottom operator of Heather.  You may have heard subsequent reports of the incident.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 2:12 PM

Jeff Hansen said:

This post was great.  Those who don't appreciate the efforts your staff does in keeping your guests safe in a very dangerous part of the mountain are selfish and uninformed. Pulling passes, though unfortunate, is necessary when people put others at risk of serious injury by refusing to obey the ropes, signage and other safety measures that keep Meadows safe.  

I also want to express my family's thanks for the great job you and the staff do.  We have been extremely impressed by how freindly, knowledgable and professional everyone on the staff has been this busy holiday season and want to extend special kudos to Brian Beardsley, Nicole and Becca in the private lesson sales.  They have been a great help to our daughter and done a fabulous job accomodating her special requests for Brian.

Have you ever considered a way to submit lesson requests via e-mail for those of us who are on file in the sales office.  I think that it would make it easier on the staff during high traffic times and keep you phone lines open.  An e-ticket voucher for privates as well as e-checkin would seal the deal.

Great job and thanks for all your hard work.

Matt's reply:

Jeff: Thank you for the shout outs to some great people in our patrol and our ski school. The patrollers deserve a pat on the back - most of them read this blog and often only those upset about areas being closed contribute. But you know what - our patrollers go home at night knowing that the work they have done and the decisions they have made are keeping people from becoming injured or killed. But it still feels good when a guest notices.

And you've also paid tribute to some of our finest in the ski school. I'm sure Chris and Jeremy will be recognizing and rewarding them!

We are looking at ways to put our private lessons online - so you can actually book a private, and even request a particular instructor. Hopefully a service we can offer next season!

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 5:08 PM

Otis said:

Kudos to all the MHM staff for all their hard work! But, I'm surprised to see no official comment on the death of the rider last week, especially in a post such as this one. Any reason behind not giving a factual account of the circumstances? The media coverage was, as usual, reactionary and sensationalist.

Matt's reply:

Otis: At the time we posted this (which was already in the works prior to the accident) the sheriff's office had not released the information and out of respect to the family we did not want to address it. I did provide more information once family had been notified to J Shank in a post above.

--Matt

# January 3, 2008 5:15 PM

ridehigh said:

I can't think of any other sport, especially one when you aren't in competition that instantly 'disqualifies' you for going out of bounds. I'm sure you can come up with a bunch though. Or least feed me and everyone else that same tired 'safety first' line as if this is the most dangerous sport on earth. Please. Thanks for your deep concern of my life, or fear of bad publicity. I know you are just doing what all the other mountains do but we aren't all kiddies and teenagers out there. I guess it is your tuff guy no tolerance front that struck a chord. Heading out to meadows next week even though everyone says mt bachelor is the best place in oregon. I am used to colorado where snow isn't an excuse for not getting things done in a timely manner. After reading some of your blog's I'm almost thinking about avoiding meadows altogether.

Matt's reply:

ridehigh: We're not trying to be tough guys and we are concerned for the safety of our guests. Come on out and give Meadows a ride but please respect the conditions and obey our closures. This isn't just a Meadows issue as this story in today's Seattle Times will attest to:

Deadly avalanche season: The risks are growing

By Jennifer Sullivan
Seattle Times staff reporter

From Mount Rainier to Mount Baker, the lure of unusually heavy and persistent snow has drawn many to the state's pristine backcountry areas.

But those conditions have resulted in the state's deadliest avalanche season in 30 years — and there are nearly five more months left in the season.

Eight people have been killed or are presumed dead as a result of avalanches in Washington state since Dec. 1. Most recently, two people were killed Tuesday when an avalanche hit a group of snowmobilers north of Mount Baker.

Weather forecasters warn more snowfall across the Cascades and Olympics as well as Mount Hood, in Oregon, could bring dangerous avalanche conditions this weekend.

Paul Baugher, director of the Northwest Avalanche Institute, attributes the high number of deaths to unusual weather conditions, the increase in the popularity of the state's backcountry areas and to visitors' lack of preparedness for dealing with avalanche danger.

"No other type of risk is as alluring and seductive," said Baugher, who is also chief of ski-patrol operations at Crystal Mountain ski area, near where three snowboarders are believed to have died in avalanches Dec. 1 and Dec. 2.

Heavy snowfall has accumulated quickly in the mountain ranges, creating ideal conditions for ski resorts but also a perilous situation for hikers, skiers, snowboarders and snowmobilers heading to the backcountry. Strong southerly winds and moderate-to-heavy precipitation were expected in the Cascades, Olympics and at Mount Hood Thursday and today. The additional accumulation of snow was expected to add to the danger.

"It's just staying bad. It's not getting any better," said Kenny Kramer, avalanche metrologist with the Northwest Weather and Avalanche Center. "We had several classic scenarios, recipes for bad avalanches."

Avalanche experts said they are seeing a continued theme of snowpack instability this season.

Snow in Washington usually falls wet and heavy, and even a deep snowpack can be solid. But this year is different, Kramer explained.

So far this year, Washington's snowpack is 30 percent to 60 percent above normal, and the snow isn't falling in the usual steady pattern that leaves a hard, solid snowpack, Kramer said. The conditions are similar to those in previous La Niña years, when avalanche deaths also increased, but not to this season's level.

The La Niña weather system causes cooler ocean temperatures, and leads to drier weather in the Southern Hemisphere and wetter-than-normal winters with more rain and snow in the Pacific Northwest.

In early December, a storm dropped more than 20 inches of snow in the mountains over an 18-hour period, immediately followed by warmer weather and rain. The same storm system that brought record floods to Western Washington's lowlands brought a high avalanche danger to the mountains, Kramer said.

After the rain in early December, the snowpack refroze into a smooth, solid layer. When light, fluffy snow fell onto the hard crust, it created a new and different avalanche danger that led to the death of a snowshoer on Dec. 18 in Mount Rainier National Park.

Then a third kind of avalanche danger developed when dense snow fell on top of the existing powder and the wind picked up, creating new peaks of dangerous snow that led to the snowmobiler deaths this week, Kramer said. Baugher likened to effect to parking "an Oldsmobile on a bag of potato chips."

Baugher said crews at Crystal Mountain are doing avalanche control almost seven days a week to make sure the resort's inbounds ski areas aren't struck by sliding snow.

"We just haven't had many breaks [in the weather]," he said. "It has been an onslaught; the patrollers are tired."

On average, the Pacific Northwest sees one or possibly two avalanche deaths during the November-to-May avalanche season, Baugher said. Of the 13 avalanche deaths nationwide this season, eight were in Washington. The others were in Utah (three), and Colorado and Wyoming (one each).

Between 1995 and 2005, 24 people died because of avalanches in Washington state, according to the King County Office of Emergency Management.

Baugher said people who venture to ski resorts but leave the designated ski area increase their avalanche risk tenfold.

At Mount Rainier National Park, where backcountry enthusiasts are encouraged, visitors are advised that the avalanche danger is high and to enjoy the snow at their own risk, park spokesman Kevin Bacher said.

"If the danger is high, people should stay out of the areas that are prone to avalanche," Bacher said. "We have always recommended that people stop in at the visitors' center or call us before heading out."

Baugher believes most of the people killed this season were aware of the avalanche danger but ignored the warnings. He said that many of the people probably hadn't had formal avalanche training.

"In the Northwest, people are used to skiing in storms. But in the past they've been lucky because what they didn't know didn't hurt them," he said. "Now what they don't know is killing them. There's no substitute for the training."

International Mountain Guides, based out of Ashford, near Mount Rainier, and The Mountaineers, based in Seattle, both offer avalanche training courses. Baugher, who teaches the courses for International Mountain Guides, said they teach participants how to assess the hazards and travel safely in potential avalanche areas.

Kramer, from the Northwest Weather and Avalanche Center, adds that the snow-sports conditions are great and people can still have fun while staying safe. He advises staying closer to the trees and away from higher, more windy terrain.

"You don't want to go out there if you don't know what you are doing or [don't] have the proper equipment," Kramer said. "Have some training and some savvy."

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 3:57 AM

Steep and Deep said:

Matt I have to respond to Dan.  Sorry for wanting HC open, sorry for wanting the AC work out there to be done early enough to open it on time during powder days, but I didn't buy a season pass at Meadows to go hiking to get FRESH POWDER!!!  All I am asking for is to open up the entire ski area that we pay for like other ski areas do across the US.  Heather Canyon isn't any more dangerous than terrain many other Western ski areas have but they do the AC work early and get the entire ski area open at opening time.

By the way, living the dream doesn't have to entail hiking all day to get some fresh tracks.  I know the ski patrol up at Meadows are doing the necessary steps to get the canyon open daily and appreciate their work.  Please just understand that there will always be a chance for an avalanche but if you've dropped 10 bombs in the canyon most likely it is now stable enough for experts to ski.

I also want to send out a prayer to the family that lost a son early this ski year.

Matt's reply:

Steep: Other ski areas have tools to perform avalanche control work which we currently don't have, so it isn't really a fair comparison. We have a resourceful, experienced and committed crew of patrol professionals who take this job seriously. And we will continue to look at ways that we can improve our AC control work.

I thank you for your post - I appreciate your knowledge and the objectivity.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 7:20 AM

JLM said:

Matt,

Great post and great comments. This was one of my favorite posts this year. Best one is still last Decembers post on Dropping 5 cats into A-zone.  Keep up the good work, and if things clear up try to add some more pict's. They speak volumes on the work you have to get done up there.

Matt's reply:

JLM: Thanks for the comments - and I'm working on the pictures.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 11:40 AM

michael said:

Frankly, I would rather drive to Crystal mtn where I know the steep and deep is than screw around at Meadows wondering when and if they ever open Heather!

Matt's reply:

michael: That is your perogative. You might want to check with Crystal in advance regarding their conditions. The head of their patrol is quoted in the Seattle Times article I posted above in the response to "ridehigh" above. Sounds like they're having some challenges as well.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 2:20 PM

michael said:

I have never understood why meadows can not get their terrain open. Crystal mtn washington has multiple times the steep avalanche prone terrain as meadows but they manage to get it open and keep it open. They believe skier consolidation is the best method of control. I head for Crystal when it's dumping.

Matt's reply:

michael: You're speaking in generalities. Crystal faces similar challenges and there are times when they are not able to open their steep avalanche terrain. All responsible avalanche control work begins with assessment. And until that assessment can be made we can not and will not open terrain. We need visibility in order to make that assessment, which requires adequate light and at times waiting until the storm relents enough to be able to see. The same goes for any mountain that is conducting responsible AC work. Read the article above - there have been eight deaths in Washington due to avalanches. Three of them were near Crystal. Crystal's chief of ski patrol Paul Baugher, who is also director of the Northwest Avalanche Institute, attributes the high number of deaths to unusual weather conditions, the increase in the popularity of the state's backcountry areas and to visitors' lack of preparedness for dealing with avalanche danger.

I put emphasis on the last part of the sentence. It is a very real concern and one of the reasons why we manage Heather the way we do.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 4:18 PM

Brian said:

Matt:

Do you have standard times for posting conditions information on the website and snow phone?  I was considering coming up early today, but given the weather forecast for a big storm, I wanted to see what was happening.  At 6:30 am, the report was from 4 pm the previous day, and thus not very helpful.  Without information, I decided to go to work instead.  

Also, I see that as of 2:30 pm today, Heather was closed.  Was it closed all day, and is there any way to know if it is likely to be open or closed? I don't believe there was a huge amount of new snow, although the weather did warm up some.  What was the change from the day before?  I understand that you can't absolutely say when it will be open, and conditions change, but some indication such as doubtful, or likely, or too close to call would be helpful.

Thanks,

Brian  

Matt's reply:

Brian: The snow phone and web site first update is 5 AM. Due to human error that did not happen until after 7 AM this morning - my apologies. We know how important this information is particularly on snowy days.

The status of Heather changes as the weather conditions change. We received a very heavy wet snow yesterday, which when layered on the lighter snowpack below it created unstable conditions. As the director of the Northwest Avalanche Institute put it - its like parking "an Oldsmobile on a bag of potato chips."

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 4:28 PM

Heather Skier said:

MHM needs to bring in new patrollers that have avalanche control experience at serious ski resorts.  Meadows also needs to invest in a large military-type cannon to help clear Heather Canyon.  I know that Heather has dangerous avalanche conditions, and I know that we have had a lot of snow, but most other resorts have dangerous terrain and get a lot of snow at times.  They still manage to get their steep terrain open.  After a big storm at good ski resorts around the country, opening their expert terrain might be delayed by hours, where at Meadows it is delayed by weeks.  If it takes you so long to open Heather Canyon, you obviously need better equipment or more patrollers.  It isn't beyond the capabilities of mankind to open Heather Canyon a few hours after a big storm.  It just takes more resources.  In Powder Magazine's 2008 resort guide it states, "This winter at Meadows, an improved management strategy intends to open Heather Canyon and Private Reserve sooner and more often following new snow."  Can you explain this new management strategy, or is this season going to be more waiting and more excuses about why Heather Canyon is too dangerous to open?

Matt's reply:

Heather Skier: Thanks for the post. We have increased the number of patrollers, the knowledge base, experience and resources that we have to perform AC. A howitzer would be incredibly helpful - the terrain deserves it.

After a big storm we are usually able to open the canyon in a matter of hours. The reason the canyon wasn't open for "weeks" is because this storm raged for two weeks, dropping more than a foot a day with driving winds for more than two weeks. We could not perform thorough avalanche control work until the storm subsided - although contrary to popular belief, control work was performed during and throughout the storm. But without the ability to visually inspect the AC work we could not (and will not) open the canyon.

You will note that we did not wait for the storm to subside before opening Private Reserve, in part due to our commitment.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 6:48 PM

vacation skier said:

if there is now a skiable base will Heather remain open???? I will be a midweek skier this week and want some steeep!!!Hopefully it won't just be for weekend use

Matt's reply:

vacation skier: Heather opens when the conditions allow, regardless of whether it is midweek or weekend.

Thanks for the post!

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 8:48 PM

skiedmeadowsfor37years said:

I am responding to the issue on the last blog, about dropping people at the front and then going back to park.  I have to do this with my four kids because we just can't carry all the gear (even on the shuttle) . I don't have enough hands.

And I know that "poachers" use that as an excuse to park on the ends, creating a pinch point headache, especially for people trying to walk to and fro, who end up in the street because the walking area is blocked by cars.

Solution: Lot attendants hand out colored tickets for free to each driver as they park. You get your ticket after you drop off and return to park. No ticket? Car is towed. No problem.

They know the rules. They will stop doing it if their cars are towed.

Matt's reply:

37years: First, thanks for skiing Meadows for so long. We appreciate your patronage.

You have hit upon a big issue - the end of the row poachers can and do cause traffic problems, particularly for the buses that have to squeeze through a smaller space. I'd really need to think through a ticket system, although we did consider turning the upper lot into paid parking. Then each vehicle would have a "ticket" for which someone paid for. Our thoughts on this was we could waive or reduce the fee for car poolers.

Thank for the post.

--Matt

# January 4, 2008 9:57 PM

Resonable Patron said:

I want to thank all the patrollers who work daily to open up some of the best skiing i have ever had this season. It always amazes me how skiers/boarders take the work patrollers do for granted. While i too anxiously awaited the opening of Heather Canyon i knew that with the amount of snow falling it was taking huge effort to keep the inbounds part of the mountain in good condition, let alone open Heather Canyon. I want the patrollers and mountain operations people to know that not everyone is a cry baby about not getting to ski HC in dangerous conditions.  Thank you to all those who make each experience at Meadows a great one!!

Matt's reply:

Reasonable Patron: Thanks for your patience and your support. The end result is we have some awesome conditions all over the mountain including Heather Canyon that our guests can enjoy. I will pas on the Kudos to the patrol and mountain operations departments.

--Matt

# January 5, 2008 2:09 PM

Mike said:

Since I am on the flip side of all the people complaining about Meadows lack of care for the paying public I thought I would comment.  I grew up skiing meadows, the only resort I paid for a season pass.  Was it frustrating to see untouched pow just across a ropeline? 100% yes but it was worth the wait back then and it is still worth the wait now.  When people say other resorts have more terrain and get it open sooner, many do have more terrain, and may open it sooner.  But many don't have such a large expanse that runs out into one small area.  Having the potential to runout below the bottom shack and having in the past blown out windows of the shack shows how hard this canyon is to control.  

Our Snow Safety (here in Utah) released multiple slides on our terrain yesterday that went back down to the ground.  One with a 6-8 foot crown that ran all the way into the lake.  Which doesn't happen very often, maybe once in a few years event.  The effect w